GRO Talks Podcast

GRO Talks stands for Growth, Research, and Optimization. The GRO Talks Podcast is the companion to the GRO Roundtable: short, bite-sized episodes that summarise a recent roundtable topic—experimentation, metrics, and how to run better tests.

Co-hosted by Matt Beischel and Iqbal Ali.

What the episodes cover

  • Novelty and familiarity effects — Often overstated; how to tell real effects from regression to the mean.
  • Test targeting — Triggers, multi-stage targeting, and tool differences (e.g. with guest Jonas Alves).
  • Metrics — How many to track, when to decide them, and why your primary metric should match goals, not just conversion.
  • Testing big vs. testing small — Nuances of scale and impact in experimentation.
  • Authenticity in case studies — Transparency, sample sizes, and avoiding misleading claims.
  • Low traffic — Metrics, research alternatives, simulations and priors when traffic is scarce.
  • AI and CRO — Shortcuts vs. trust, ethics, and long-term value.
  • Why programs fail — Incentives, psychological safety, and support for learning from failure.

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To join the live roundtable that feeds the podcast, see the GRO Roundtables event.

Iqbal Ali

Iqbal Ali

Fractional AI Advisor and Experimentation Lead. Training, development, workshops, and fractional team member.